TDP 170: HIMSS 2025 Debrief: Riding the Epic Banana, The "Cream Incident", and Revealing the Most Provocative Ideas we Heard

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On this special solo episode of The Digital Patient, Josh and Alan recap their experience at HIMSS 2025 in Las Vegas, covering the biggest trends in AI, digital health, and interoperability while sharing some conference misadventures, from navigating Vegas casinos to the Great Vegas Waffle mishap at the opening reception. Click the play button to listen or read the show notes below.
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Audio:

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Guest(s):

• Dr. Joshua Liu (@joshuapliu), Co-founder & CEO at SeamlessMD

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‍Episode 170 - Show Notes:

[00:00:07] What Happens in Vegas stays in Vegas… Except at HIMSS 2025

[00:02:15] The Art of Getting Lost in Las Vegas

[00:05:05] The "Cream Incident"

[00:06:54] The Great Waffle Incident: When the Chicken Runs Out

[00:09:39] AI Scribes at HIMSS

[00:10:35] The Cognitive Burden of Documentation

[00:13:15] How Allegheny Health Network Piloted 3 AI Scribe Vendors at Once

[00:14:24] AI Scribes as a Recruiting Tool: A New Must-Have for Clinicians

[00:15:20] Why Roberta Schwartz Says AI Alone Won’t Solve Healthcare’s Efficiency Problem

[00:19:20] Vendor Wars: The Battle for the Softest Carpet at HIMSS 2025

[00:21:35] Epic’s AI Vision: A More Open Ecosystem for Ambient AI

[00:23:50] The Symplr Booth Incident

[00:25:09] Shoutout Nabla: Great people, great food, great company

[00:26:30] The Search for the Perfect Pork Chop Continues

[00:28:17] Interoperability & AI Bias: A Hidden Risk in Sensitive Data Redaction

[00:29:10] The “Zombie Tech” Problem: Why Innovation Often Fails After Launch

[00:32:35] How Northwestern Medicine Balances Innovation Pilots & EHR Integration

[00:35:20] "The Patient Room is Not a Sports Bar"

[00:37:00] A thank you to the HIMSS team

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