Digital Patient Podcast

TDP 165: UnityPoint Health’s Regional CMIO Dr. Jon Senkler: The Ideal Clinical AI Co-Pilot, Why AI is like a Scalpel that can help or harm, and How Ambient AI Reduces in-the-moment Cognitive Burden

January 30, 2025
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On this episode of The Digital Patient, Dr. Joshua Liu, Co-founder & CEO of SeamlessMD, and colleague, Alan Sardana, chat with Dr. Jon Senkler, Regional CMIO at UnityPoint Health, about "The ideal Clinical AI Co-Pilot, Why AI is like a Scalpel that can help or harm, How Ambient AI Reduces in-the-moment Cognitive Burden, and more..." Click the play button to listen or read the show notes below.

Audio:

Guest(s):

  • Dr. Jon Senkler, Regional Chief Medical Information Officer at UnityPoint Health Des Moines
  • Dr. Joshua Liu (@joshuapliu), Co-founder & CEO at SeamlessMD

Episode 165 - Show Notes:

[00:00:07] Episode preview

[00:03:50] From Internal Medicine to CMIO: A Journey Fueled by Curiosity and Saying "Yes"

[00:09:11] AI Scribes at UnityPoint: Early Learnings and Adoption

[00:12:02] The Trade-offs of AI Scribes: Cost, Integration, and Equity

[00:16:05] Virtual Scribes vs. AI Scribes: A Lateral Move?

[00:19:07] The Future of Ambient AI in Medicine: A Virtual Resident?

[00:23:56] EHR Patient Message Automation: The Next AI Battleground

[00:28:04] Fixing Documentation Fatigue

[00:34:45] Being the Bridge Between IT and Clinicians

[00:42:00] Why Volunteering Builds Better Healthcare Leaders

Fast 5 Lightning Round:

  1. Favorite Book or Book You’ve Gifted the Most:
    The House of God by Samuel Shem.
  2. Person Dead or Alive You’d Love to Meet:
    Albert Einstein.
  3. Super strength, super speed, or mind reading:
    Super strength.
  4. Something in Healthcare You Believe in That Others Might Find Insane:
    That the EHR can actually be helpful.
  5. Last Film/TV Show:
    Wicked.

TDP 165: UnityPoint Health’s Regional CMIO Dr. Jon Senkler: The Ideal Clinical AI Co-Pilot, Why AI is like a Scalpel that can help or harm, and How Ambient AI Reduces in-the-moment Cognitive Burden

Posted by:
seamless
on
January 30, 2025

Subscribe on: RSS | SPOTIFY | APPLE PODCAST | GOOGLE | BREAKER | ANCHOR

On this episode of The Digital Patient, Dr. Joshua Liu, Co-founder & CEO of SeamlessMD, and colleague, Alan Sardana, chat with Dr. Jon Senkler, Regional CMIO at UnityPoint Health, about "The ideal Clinical AI Co-Pilot, Why AI is like a Scalpel that can help or harm, How Ambient AI Reduces in-the-moment Cognitive Burden, and more..." Click the play button to listen or read the show notes below.

Audio:

Guest(s):

  • Dr. Jon Senkler, Regional Chief Medical Information Officer at UnityPoint Health Des Moines
  • Dr. Joshua Liu (@joshuapliu), Co-founder & CEO at SeamlessMD

Episode 165 - Show Notes:

[00:00:07] Episode preview

[00:03:50] From Internal Medicine to CMIO: A Journey Fueled by Curiosity and Saying "Yes"

[00:09:11] AI Scribes at UnityPoint: Early Learnings and Adoption

[00:12:02] The Trade-offs of AI Scribes: Cost, Integration, and Equity

[00:16:05] Virtual Scribes vs. AI Scribes: A Lateral Move?

[00:19:07] The Future of Ambient AI in Medicine: A Virtual Resident?

[00:23:56] EHR Patient Message Automation: The Next AI Battleground

[00:28:04] Fixing Documentation Fatigue

[00:34:45] Being the Bridge Between IT and Clinicians

[00:42:00] Why Volunteering Builds Better Healthcare Leaders

Fast 5 Lightning Round:

  1. Favorite Book or Book You’ve Gifted the Most:
    The House of God by Samuel Shem.
  2. Person Dead or Alive You’d Love to Meet:
    Albert Einstein.
  3. Super strength, super speed, or mind reading:
    Super strength.
  4. Something in Healthcare You Believe in That Others Might Find Insane:
    That the EHR can actually be helpful.
  5. Last Film/TV Show:
    Wicked.

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