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June 12, 2025
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On this episode of The Digital Patient, Dr. Joshua Liu, Co-founder & CEO of SeamlessMD, and colleague, Alan Sardana, chat with Dr. Paul Testa, CMIO at NYU Langone Health, about "How being a Lawyer made him a Different Type of CMIO, NYU's Approach to Generative AI, Shifting the EHR from Inputs to Outputs in the Next Decade, and more..." Click the play button to listen or read the show notes below.
Audio:
Guest(s):
- Dr. Paul Testa, Chief Medical Information Officer at NYU Langone Health
- Dr. Joshua Liu (@joshuapliu), Co-founder & CEO at SeamlessMD
Episode 164 - Show Notes:
[00:00:07] Episode preview
[00:04:19] From Lawyer to Emergency Physician to CMIO
[00:07:41] Lessons from Healthcare Law Applied to Digital Transformation
[00:09:30] Respecting Unintended Consequences: How to Apply Generative AI Safely in Healthcare
[00:11:20] Piloting Ambient Documentation
[00:16:52] Generative AI at NYU Langone: Leaning in, Not Banning
[00:19:02] How AI Will Transform Healthcare Operations Over the Next Few Years
[00:23:32] Using Emojis to Reduce Notification Fatigue
[00:27:12] On Leadership and Governance
[00:33:29] On Personalizing Patient Care
[00:35:33] The Future of Input vs. Output in EHRs
[00:37:34] Adapting Ambient AI for Diverse Clinician Needs
[00:39:27] Legacy and Modernization: Balancing Innovation with Humanity
Fast 5 Lightning Round:
- Favorite Book or Book You’ve Gifted the Most:
Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. - Person Dead or Alive You’d Love to Meet:
His grandmother, an OB emergency nurse. - Super strength, super speed, or mind reading:
Super speed. - Something in Healthcare You Believe in That Others Might Find Insane:
When healthcare works well, it operates like a great restaurant or hotel. - Last Film/TV Show:
Wicked in 4D.
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